tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post1498161528353966010..comments2024-03-28T01:27:39.788-07:00Comments on Software Testing Tricks: Breaking News – How to Break Microsoft Word 2000!Debasis Pradhanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15059356907987625705noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-38309589967708354252013-01-07T21:11:45.868-08:002013-01-07T21:11:45.868-08:00Hello,
Thanks for sharing such information with ev...Hello,<br />Thanks for sharing such information with everyone. Your writing gives an overall idea about the software testing. Good to see such type of posting. I really like to read it. Keep on posting some new information…!<br />Certified Associate in Software Testinghttp://www.orimarktechnologies.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-7989156002396860572009-03-04T23:24:00.000-08:002009-03-04T23:24:00.000-08:00@ Lakshmi,I am sorry, but I am not quite sure if I...@ Lakshmi,<BR/><BR/>I am sorry, but I am not quite sure if I follow you! If you followed my test steps and reached a point that was similar to my screenshot, then I think that's fine. But in case, you tried to follow my steps but reached a different situation/anomaly then feel free to upload a screenshot to any free image hosting sites (e.g. photobucket) and drop me the URL. I will take a look at it. At any rate, please leave a detailed description of what you did, what you were expecting and what you got! Happy Testing...Debasis Pradhanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15059356907987625705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-71806069835814750522009-03-04T21:06:00.000-08:002009-03-04T21:06:00.000-08:00yeh hi Debasis,Thanks for posting my comment and r...yeh hi Debasis,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for posting my comment and replying me im really very much happy i have did the same as per the screenshot :-)Lakshmihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02537023959597928838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-10435090167351579182009-03-04T00:39:00.000-08:002009-03-04T00:39:00.000-08:00@ Lakshmi,First of all Welcome to Software Testing...@ Lakshmi,<BR/><BR/>First of all Welcome to Software Testing Zone. I am glad that you are liking what you are reading here. <BR/><BR/>How many times had you used (Ctrl+V) to fill the in between area with spaces? I would suggest you to try pasting some more empty spaces and see if you could get to a point any similar to the screenshot that I have attached in the post! Happy Testing..Debasis Pradhanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15059356907987625705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-483962423421360042009-03-03T22:00:00.000-08:002009-03-03T22:00:00.000-08:00Hi Debasis,Im new to this blog and feels excited w...Hi Debasis,<BR/><BR/>Im new to this blog and feels excited while reading each post. While reading this post i thought doing this cases again for B - test step in MS-word 2007 i got the result as pages 1,words 2,Chracters(no spaces) 2,Characters(with spaces) 420, Pragraphs 1,Lines 2.<BR/><BR/>Let me know your views.Lakshmihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02537023959597928838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-31121398986716638872007-09-27T01:38:00.000-07:002007-09-27T01:38:00.000-07:00@ Kalpana,An application was running in Ms-Access ...@ Kalpana,<BR/><BR/><I>An application was running in Ms-Access 2000 which has been converted from Access 2000 to Access 2003 for some reasons.</I><BR/><BR/>1. What kind of application it was? Was it some kind of addon, some graph analysis tool, some Gantt chart preparing widget...? <BR/>2. Was it working fine in Access 2000?<BR/>3. Is there any known issue of this application with Access 2000?<BR/>4. When you say that Access 2000 was upgraded to Access 2003, does that mean that you are trying to test the compatibility of your application with Access 2003?<BR/>5. Was there any recent upgradation/enhancement/bug-fix in your application?<BR/><BR/><I>Developer requested me to execute the test cases that they have written which covers the major functionality.</I><BR/><BR/>1. What kind of test cases are they? In my knowledge, developers mostly write unit test scripts to test the application under development. <BR/>2. If you are talking about functional test cases (blackbox!), I am wondering why the developers had to develop the test cases, when there is probably a separate test team to take care of it! <BR/><BR/><I>Is it ok to just execute those test cases?</I><BR/><BR/>1. Will you feel comfortable after executing ONLY the test cases, prepared by your developers?<BR/>2. How much time do you have to test the functionalities?<BR/>3. What is the complexity of the application and the technology involved?<BR/><BR/><I>What sort of testing is required for this scenario?</I><BR/><BR/>Well, I guess there is not any BEST PRACTICE that might apply here. It is not like one-size-fits-all kind of thing. The test strategy will differ based upon your context. Anyway, if I were in place of you, I would have liked to ask some questions like the above ones (that I have asked to you) before accepting this testing mission. For your information, I DO NOT trust much on the test cases written by the testing team (that includes me too!). I refer them just as a reference. But never as words from bible! Test cases might be helpful in finding bugs. But they themselves can not find bugs. It is the tester who has to design, follow/execute those test cases in order to find bugs. Furthermore, a tester need not write down his/her test ideas into test cases in order to find bugs. (S)he can still find the same bug by formulating the test case in his/her brain and then executing it. This is called Exploratory Testing [Simultaneous learning, test design and test execution - By James Bach]. <BR/><BR/>Well, I think I am drifting from your original question. Think over your scenario, ask yourself some context-based questions (like the above) that might help you in deciding a better approach to test the scenario in hand.<BR/><BR/>Happy Testing...<BR/>-DebasisDebasis Pradhanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15059356907987625705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-4727075679157381232007-09-26T03:48:00.000-07:002007-09-26T03:48:00.000-07:00An application was running in Ms-Access 2000 which...An application was running in Ms-Access 2000 which has been converted from Access 2000 to Access 2003 for some reasons. <BR/>Developer requestd me to execute the test cases that they have written which covers the major functionality. Is it ok to jus execute those test cases?<BR/>else <BR/>What sort of testing is required for this scenario?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18330200958752052195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-89818930222332018292007-06-26T07:26:00.000-07:002007-06-26T07:26:00.000-07:00@ Debasis and Prabhat,It's important that we as te...@ Debasis and Prabhat,<BR/><BR/>It's important that we as testers want be the smartest ones and hence we try defeating our own ideas and first instincts before someone else points it out.<BR/><BR/>I am sure on practicing you guys can do well. Keep going!Pradeep Soundararajanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849721523107325938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-66179333102176713442007-06-26T03:24:00.000-07:002007-06-26T03:24:00.000-07:00Thanks Debsis. Those were the points which I liked...Thanks Debsis. <BR/><BR/>Those were the points which I liked to point at when I said hardware config.<BR/><BR/>The list is endless.....<BR/><BR/>Thanks and Regards,<BR/>Prabhath MurthyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-7022935026822727912007-06-26T01:18:00.000-07:002007-06-26T01:18:00.000-07:00@ Pradeep,My above questions were aimed at getting...@ Pradeep,<BR/><BR/>My above questions were aimed at getting a clearer picture of the context in which the developer might say <I>"This isn't an issue Debasis"</I>! <BR/><BR/>As you were curious about some scenarios where this behaviour might not be a bug I will try to list them here. <BR/><BR/>1. Imagine a person using a decade old Pentium II system with 64 MB RAM! (I am not sure if MS Office 2000 can be installed on such a system though). In such a scenario, hanging of the application might have more to do with the system (hardware) configuration and the above behaviour might not be a bug!<BR/><BR/>2. Imagine a scenario when the MS Word document that you are testing is located on a remote network. In such case, a slow network connection might result in such a behaviour.<BR/><BR/>3. Imagine a scenario where the MS Word document was corrupted due to improper saving during your last usage! Here the above behaviour might apprear due to the corrupt MS Word file!<BR/><BR/>4. Imagine a scenario where you are testing a MS Word file that was saved on the "bad sector" of your hard drive. In such a case the above behaviour might not be due to a bug in MS Word 2000!<BR/><BR/>5. Imagine a scenario, where another "memory eating" program (e.g. a 3D computer graphics and 3D modeling software package like Maya) is simultaneously running along with MS Word 2000. <BR/><BR/>These are few scenarios where the above behaviour (non-responding MS Word 2000) might not be due to a bug in Microsoft Word! <BR/><BR/>But while testing, I had non of the above scenarios; and still I got the above crash. So I belive it was due to a bug (Memory Overflow!) in MS Word 2000.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>Debasis.Debasis Pradhanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15059356907987625705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-79828315523868157102007-06-25T23:51:00.000-07:002007-06-25T23:51:00.000-07:00@pradeep For me, following could be looked on broa...@pradeep <BR/><BR/>For me, following could be looked on broader aspect<BR/><BR/>1) My steps executed<BR/>2) My configuration<BR/>3) For web application > View source provides most of the information which the developers might be looking for<BR/>4) The timing (like session dependency)<BR/>5) The scenario like what major application that is running on your pc like an heavly loaded applications like your Anti-Virus <BR/>6) Your CPU performance (roughly)<BR/>7) Number of users that are logged in to the system/application from same or different browsers on same PC <BR/>8) Both Admin and user areas that are accessed thru' same pc etc etc<BR/><BR/>Above things are just on broader aspect of information which could be provided to developer. <BR/><BR/>Inputs are always welcomed.<BR/><BR/>Please note, those comments of mine are based on general information which I provide while testing and is no not related to just the above post.<BR/><BR/>Thanks and Regards,<BR/>Prabhath MurthyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-89132105250107595362007-06-25T01:50:00.000-07:002007-06-25T01:50:00.000-07:00@Debasis,Also, if I were a developer from Microsof...@Debasis,<BR/><BR/><I>Also, if I were a developer from Microsoft saying, "This isn't an issue Debasis", could you let me know the analysis would you do?<BR/><BR/>In that case I would have liked to ask these questions to the developer:<BR/>1. Why do you think that this is not an issue?<BR/>2. Are you saying this because, I was the tester who had reported most (both in terms of severity and number) bugs in your modules in our last release cycle? :)<BR/>3. Are you saying this because, you don't want to call it (a crash) an "issue" and would like to call it by some other name?<BR/>4. Are you saying this because you could not get this in your machine?<BR/>5. If you could not get this in your system, let me know the methods and steps you followed to get the crash. In that case, I might be able to provide you with more information to get the crash.<BR/>6. If you could get the crash but still you don't think that it is an issue, then I think as a tester I have done my duty of reporting a problem. I am NOT a quality police. Whether this bug should be fixed or not, I think I am not the right person to decide it.</I><BR/><BR/>I was curious to know if you might do an analysis on thinking of scenarios where this behavior is not a bug and elucidate the risks, if any, associated with the story of this behavior not being a bug.Pradeep Soundararajanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849721523107325938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-68285479648590657202007-06-23T03:54:00.000-07:002007-06-23T03:54:00.000-07:00@ Pradeep,In case if I am unable to reproduce the ...@ Pradeep,<BR/><BR/><I>In case if I am unable to reproduce the bug, what information can you give me?<BR/></I><BR/>Before I could give you more information, I would like to know <BR/>1. What did you do to reproduce the bug. Did you try to follow the test steps described by me? <BR/>2. If yes, how exactly and how accurately did you follow them? Assuming that you had followed the test steps exactly as I have described, I would like to know your actual results. And how your results differed from mine. <BR/>3. Did you try to explore the application? Did you try with other test ideas and other test data while trying to break the application? If yes, what were they and what were your results?<BR/><BR/>Unless I know all these facts, I am afraid, I would not be able to give you accurate information to help you in reproducing the bug!<BR/><BR/><I>Also, if I were a developer from Microsoft saying, "This isn't an issue Debasis", could you let me know the analysis would you do?</I><BR/><BR/>In that case I would have liked to ask these questions to the developer:<BR/>1. Why do you think that this is not an issue?<BR/>2. Are you saying this because, I was the tester who had reported most (both in terms of severity and number) bugs in your modules in our last release cycle? :)<BR/>3. Are you saying this because, you don't want to call it (a crash) an "issue" and would like to call it by some other name?<BR/>4. Are you saying this because you could not get this in your machine?<BR/>5. If you could not get this in your system, let me know the methods and steps you followed to get the crash. In that case, I might be able to provide you with more information to get the crash.<BR/>6. If you could get the crash but still you don't think that it is an issue, then I think as a tester I have done my duty of reporting a problem. I am NOT a quality police. Whether this bug should be fixed or not, I think I am not the right person to decide it.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for those questions,<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>Debasis.Debasis Pradhanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15059356907987625705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-9598719961427265772007-06-22T03:37:00.000-07:002007-06-22T03:37:00.000-07:00@Debasis,In case if I am unable to reproduce the b...@Debasis,<BR/><BR/>In case if I am unable to reproduce the bug, what information can you give me?<BR/><BR/>[ It appeared to me that I did find an issue that might be similar to what you reported but I am interested to know what information would you supply if I am unable to reproduce it ]<BR/><BR/>Also, if I were a developer from Microsoft saying, "This isn't an issue Debasis", could you let me know the analysis would you do?Pradeep Soundararajanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849721523107325938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-35041574712355497922007-06-21T23:49:00.000-07:002007-06-21T23:49:00.000-07:00Great work Debasis!You might also be interested in...Great work Debasis!<BR/>You might also be interested in link down or making note of<BR/><A HREF="http://www.softwaretestinghelp.com/how-to-find-a-bug-in-application-tips-and-tricks/" REL="nofollow"> How to find bugs in an application? </A><BR/><BR/>Further on we can have a great community of bloggers an users under our niche. If you are interested we might work closely in future!Vijayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307436813844260307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1695460650467928609.post-53982333815985633912007-06-21T23:06:00.000-07:002007-06-21T23:06:00.000-07:00Good presence of mind :)Presence of mind coz the w...Good presence of mind :)<BR/><BR/>Presence of mind coz the way you went on to get issues after the first bug was discovered, the space bar between "A" and "Z" and then then the journey till the end to find the last but not the least, cracking down the application (Not responding) which is the worst scenario for development team was something great and worth watching.<BR/><BR/>Great Testing. And continue testing!!<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>Prabhath MurthyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com